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		<title>By: A.W.</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2009/06/wheres-my-government/comment-page-1/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>A.W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kei,

Thanks for such a thoughtful reply. It&#039;s not right to generalize -- you&#039;re right -- about Qatar or the Middle East in general -- or for that matter the U.S. or China or New Zealand. Every country has its demons and angels, and its share of skeletons.

Greed is so sinister -- look at what happened on Wall Street! But sometimes I feel that we are all a little guilty. I mean, how am I different from the a greedy business owner paying his workers next to nothing when I live in Asia or the M.E. and pay my help next to nothing -- because it&#039;s the going rate -- knowing that that person would make four times the amount in my country doing the same job? Sometimes I wonder if I am any different. Tough questions.

I read this amazing article in the Huffington Post about Dubai (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai_b_183851.html) and it was utterly shocking. It really, really shook me up. I was horrified to imagine so many people -- normal people like you and me -- going along with horrible practices because they simply could. The description of the expats enjoying their &quot;slaves&quot; was especially chilling. What I also found troubling/fascinating was the insights into the Emirati mindset -- the anger with which they responded to western journalists (or anyone from the outside, I guess) questioning whether human rights and basic rights were being violated in a society so driven by greed. The few Emiratis who all described the same thing: their mothers or grandmothers had nothing, and suddenly they have everything and they think it&#039;s fantastic. I suppose when it&#039;s in that kind of context, it&#039;s hard to make a case for equality.

Like you, though, I do believe that in the end equality and fairness and basic human rights benefit all of us. We&#039;ve seen over and over again how greed comes back to get you in American business: Enron, the banking sector, the car industry.

Do you believe the average Qatari is interested in doing something to help the plight of others in Qatar, even if they are foreigners? You yourself do, as this post shows, but I wonder if the Emirati article is specific to U.A.E or more broadly applied. It would be great (if legal and OK) to start some kind of organization, a grassroots thing, that helped promote fair labor practices or expose (maybe via internet) unfair ones. Perhaps people can boycott businesses who are known to take advantage of workers, etc.

One thing that seems crucial to me is to never allow companies to take workers&#039; passports or to not require exit visas. Do you think it&#039;s possible?

Thanks! I&#039;m really excited about relocating to Doha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kei,</p>
<p>Thanks for such a thoughtful reply. It&#8217;s not right to generalize &#8212; you&#8217;re right &#8212; about Qatar or the Middle East in general &#8212; or for that matter the U.S. or China or New Zealand. Every country has its demons and angels, and its share of skeletons.</p>
<p>Greed is so sinister &#8212; look at what happened on Wall Street! But sometimes I feel that we are all a little guilty. I mean, how am I different from the a greedy business owner paying his workers next to nothing when I live in Asia or the M.E. and pay my help next to nothing &#8212; because it&#8217;s the going rate &#8212; knowing that that person would make four times the amount in my country doing the same job? Sometimes I wonder if I am any different. Tough questions.</p>
<p>I read this amazing article in the Huffington Post about Dubai (<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai_b_183851.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai_b_183851.html</a>) and it was utterly shocking. It really, really shook me up. I was horrified to imagine so many people &#8212; normal people like you and me &#8212; going along with horrible practices because they simply could. The description of the expats enjoying their &#8220;slaves&#8221; was especially chilling. What I also found troubling/fascinating was the insights into the Emirati mindset &#8212; the anger with which they responded to western journalists (or anyone from the outside, I guess) questioning whether human rights and basic rights were being violated in a society so driven by greed. The few Emiratis who all described the same thing: their mothers or grandmothers had nothing, and suddenly they have everything and they think it&#8217;s fantastic. I suppose when it&#8217;s in that kind of context, it&#8217;s hard to make a case for equality.</p>
<p>Like you, though, I do believe that in the end equality and fairness and basic human rights benefit all of us. We&#8217;ve seen over and over again how greed comes back to get you in American business: Enron, the banking sector, the car industry.</p>
<p>Do you believe the average Qatari is interested in doing something to help the plight of others in Qatar, even if they are foreigners? You yourself do, as this post shows, but I wonder if the Emirati article is specific to U.A.E or more broadly applied. It would be great (if legal and OK) to start some kind of organization, a grassroots thing, that helped promote fair labor practices or expose (maybe via internet) unfair ones. Perhaps people can boycott businesses who are known to take advantage of workers, etc.</p>
<p>One thing that seems crucial to me is to never allow companies to take workers&#8217; passports or to not require exit visas. Do you think it&#8217;s possible?</p>
<p>Thanks! I&#8217;m really excited about relocating to Doha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kei</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2009/06/wheres-my-government/comment-page-1/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Kei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there A.W. In regards to the Emir, it&#039;s without a doubt that I can say that this man is doing a lot for this country. They&#039;re role-models to look up to; I say this with all honesty.

The problem is there are too many issues to deal with and he&#039;s just one man. That being said, the government is in place to do things in the best interest of the people. Citizens, tourists, or expats.

If we compare Qatar to other countries, the situation isn&#039;t as bad (but it still is). We see tons of companies getting fined or shut down yearly, but that&#039;s not enough as a deterant is it? Because he hear about 800 companies and over facing penalities or warnings.

It&#039;s all in the name of greed and capitalism. 

Qatar is leading the way in many ways, and I strongly believe that it&#039;ll come out of this heartless and archaic phase soon enough. 

I meet up with some Qatari friends that really want the best for this country from their hearts and are working hard to make a difference. What IS disheartning though is when other nationalities generalize us and don&#039;t acknowledge that there are good people and bad people (whereever you go).

Thank God the NHRC have been kicking into gear recently.

So to sum up, we do see change with companies being fined, legislations being changed in terms of sponsorship, penalties being increased, NHRC enforcing basic rights etc... Qatar&#039;s still a developing nation.

Is it enough? It&#039;s never enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there A.W. In regards to the Emir, it&#8217;s without a doubt that I can say that this man is doing a lot for this country. They&#8217;re role-models to look up to; I say this with all honesty.</p>
<p>The problem is there are too many issues to deal with and he&#8217;s just one man. That being said, the government is in place to do things in the best interest of the people. Citizens, tourists, or expats.</p>
<p>If we compare Qatar to other countries, the situation isn&#8217;t as bad (but it still is). We see tons of companies getting fined or shut down yearly, but that&#8217;s not enough as a deterant is it? Because he hear about 800 companies and over facing penalities or warnings.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all in the name of greed and capitalism. </p>
<p>Qatar is leading the way in many ways, and I strongly believe that it&#8217;ll come out of this heartless and archaic phase soon enough. </p>
<p>I meet up with some Qatari friends that really want the best for this country from their hearts and are working hard to make a difference. What IS disheartning though is when other nationalities generalize us and don&#8217;t acknowledge that there are good people and bad people (whereever you go).</p>
<p>Thank God the NHRC have been kicking into gear recently.</p>
<p>So to sum up, we do see change with companies being fined, legislations being changed in terms of sponsorship, penalties being increased, NHRC enforcing basic rights etc&#8230; Qatar&#8217;s still a developing nation.</p>
<p>Is it enough? It&#8217;s never enough.</p>
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		<title>By: A.W.</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2009/06/wheres-my-government/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>A.W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for reporting on this. As an expat about to move to Doha, this is one of my biggest concerns -- joining a society where these kinds of rights aren&#039;t guaranteed.

Question: Do you think the government -- specifically the Emir -- take this issue seriously? I believe that over time, if these kinds of slavelike practices continue, many potential investors and tourists will be turned off from Qatar. A more positive way of saying this is don&#039;t you think Qatar could be an amazing force in the region by being a model for fair labor practice? In the same way they&#039;re promoting education through Education City and free press with Al Jazeera, wouldn&#039;t it be in Qatar&#039;s best interest to make a push to exemplify fairness and legality in its immigration and labor practices? It seems to me win-win. The &quot;west&quot; has many flaws, but one of its biggest criticisms of other countries, especially in the middle east, is that people don&#039;t have enough rights, such as in labor. I wonder if Qatar sees the potential to shine here.

Thoughts from a Qatari?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for reporting on this. As an expat about to move to Doha, this is one of my biggest concerns &#8212; joining a society where these kinds of rights aren&#8217;t guaranteed.</p>
<p>Question: Do you think the government &#8212; specifically the Emir &#8212; take this issue seriously? I believe that over time, if these kinds of slavelike practices continue, many potential investors and tourists will be turned off from Qatar. A more positive way of saying this is don&#8217;t you think Qatar could be an amazing force in the region by being a model for fair labor practice? In the same way they&#8217;re promoting education through Education City and free press with Al Jazeera, wouldn&#8217;t it be in Qatar&#8217;s best interest to make a push to exemplify fairness and legality in its immigration and labor practices? It seems to me win-win. The &#8220;west&#8221; has many flaws, but one of its biggest criticisms of other countries, especially in the middle east, is that people don&#8217;t have enough rights, such as in labor. I wonder if Qatar sees the potential to shine here.</p>
<p>Thoughts from a Qatari?</p>
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		<title>By: Kei</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2009/06/wheres-my-government/comment-page-1/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>Kei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s Keanu reporting. Qatar bought him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s Keanu reporting. Qatar bought him.</p>
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		<title>By: Marjorie</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2009/06/wheres-my-government/comment-page-1/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>Marjorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this; I&#039;d missed it before.  I&#039;ve seen Al Jazeera&#039;s coverage of similar situations in the UAE, but it&#039;s really heartwarming to see them tackle the issue in Doha.  (That said, what beach did they pick up their surfer dude reporter from?  Even as a Californian I laughed to hear his accent reporting a serious topic.  Expected to hear him console the workers with a &quot;Bummer, dude.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this; I&#8217;d missed it before.  I&#8217;ve seen Al Jazeera&#8217;s coverage of similar situations in the UAE, but it&#8217;s really heartwarming to see them tackle the issue in Doha.  (That said, what beach did they pick up their surfer dude reporter from?  Even as a Californian I laughed to hear his accent reporting a serious topic.  Expected to hear him console the workers with a &#8220;Bummer, dude.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sybil</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2009/06/wheres-my-government/comment-page-1/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>Sybil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reposting this, Kei.  This is the saddest part of living here.  Seeing these workers&#039; sad faces on buses as their being herded back to their loosely termed &quot;homes&quot; in the evenings breaks my heart. Many of my   friends get upset with their staring, I make it a point to smile &amp; wave. So far from home in such conditions. If it&#039;s what they want, so be it, but I have the feeling that many are &quot;stuck&quot; here. The forlorn faces of so many nannies here is heartbreaking, as well. How can someone take such a young girl from their own family and not treat them as their family when bringing them into their homes. There is a song with the lyrics, &quot;Come on people now
smile on your brother everybody get together and try to love one another right now&quot;.  Pass it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reposting this, Kei.  This is the saddest part of living here.  Seeing these workers&#8217; sad faces on buses as their being herded back to their loosely termed &#8220;homes&#8221; in the evenings breaks my heart. Many of my   friends get upset with their staring, I make it a point to smile &amp; wave. So far from home in such conditions. If it&#8217;s what they want, so be it, but I have the feeling that many are &#8220;stuck&#8221; here. The forlorn faces of so many nannies here is heartbreaking, as well. How can someone take such a young girl from their own family and not treat them as their family when bringing them into their homes. There is a song with the lyrics, &#8220;Come on people now<br />
smile on your brother everybody get together and try to love one another right now&#8221;.  Pass it on.</p>
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