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	<title>Comments on: 2010 and Zig Zag towers still aren&#8217;t finished.</title>
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	<description>Delve into the mind of a Qatari; Working hard to make Qatar a better place :)</description>
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		<title>By: Kei</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2010/01/2010-and-zig-zag-tower-still-isnt-finished/comment-page-1/#comment-2023</link>
		<dc:creator>Kei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to relax Mr. Anonymous
As I mentioned, I do not delete anything.
I didn’t delete it when someone posted that I’m a filthy Arab towel head so why would I delete a post that agrees with what I originally posted?

Press ctrl f5 to refresh your cache</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to relax Mr. Anonymous<br />
As I mentioned, I do not delete anything.<br />
I didn’t delete it when someone posted that I’m a filthy Arab towel head so why would I delete a post that agrees with what I originally posted?</p>
<p>Press ctrl f5 to refresh your cache</p>
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		<title>By: ....</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2010/01/2010-and-zig-zag-tower-still-isnt-finished/comment-page-1/#comment-2021</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously the admin of this site didn&#039;t like the post related to zigzag facade covered by a poster... So much for freedom of speech</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously the admin of this site didn&#8217;t like the post related to zigzag facade covered by a poster&#8230; So much for freedom of speech</p>
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		<title>By: ....</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2010/01/2010-and-zig-zag-tower-still-isnt-finished/comment-page-1/#comment-2019</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if there was anything left which is good about the ZigZag was the view of the skyline. Two days ago I came back home to find them sticking Qatar Bid posters all over the facade!! So much for the view and so much for privacy and one&#039;s own right to say No! Their answer was: The owner&#039;s committee voted for this. Its weird when the owner of the appartment I have rented had no clue about it.

Welcome to Qatar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if there was anything left which is good about the ZigZag was the view of the skyline. Two days ago I came back home to find them sticking Qatar Bid posters all over the facade!! So much for the view and so much for privacy and one&#8217;s own right to say No! Their answer was: The owner&#8217;s committee voted for this. Its weird when the owner of the appartment I have rented had no clue about it.</p>
<p>Welcome to Qatar</p>
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		<title>By: Kei</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2010/01/2010-and-zig-zag-tower-still-isnt-finished/comment-page-1/#comment-1820</link>
		<dc:creator>Kei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 11:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Emiratee friend sitting next to me in the spice market just laughed.
Lol I understand what you are trying to say but don&#039;t you think you are generalizing?

I care about my name. My villas and apartments were built to the highest standard.

I&#039;ve seen al asmakh building on al saad and it beautiful.

The fault is thatbthere is no land law court and companies hire corrupt and lazy managers that manipulate the system.

On a side note, do some research on who owns zig zag ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Emiratee friend sitting next to me in the spice market just laughed.<br />
Lol I understand what you are trying to say but don&#8217;t you think you are generalizing?</p>
<p>I care about my name. My villas and apartments were built to the highest standard.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen al asmakh building on al saad and it beautiful.</p>
<p>The fault is thatbthere is no land law court and companies hire corrupt and lazy managers that manipulate the system.</p>
<p>On a side note, do some research on who owns zig zag <img src='http://blog.iloveqatar.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2010/01/2010-and-zig-zag-tower-still-isnt-finished/comment-page-1/#comment-1819</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 10:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its not about unskilled workers, its about the Qatari mindset. just look across the pond in Dubai you have the same construction workers and similar issues but the quality of construction is MUCH BETTER!
thats because their the owners actually care about their name and about their reputation. Here you have bad engineers and contractors, who have not seen any standards except for their own home countries or that of Qatar and they keep designing bad stuff. On top of that the owners just dont care to even look at the designs. Eg: how many buildings in dubai do you see with ramps and how many of those do you see here?

The other point is facilities management. You dont see Facilities management here at all, which is why you have the horrific situations described above!

My advice to all qatari landlords is simple - PLEASE LOOK AT YOUR NEIGHBORS IN DUBAI AND LEARN HOW THEY BUILD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not about unskilled workers, its about the Qatari mindset. just look across the pond in Dubai you have the same construction workers and similar issues but the quality of construction is MUCH BETTER!<br />
thats because their the owners actually care about their name and about their reputation. Here you have bad engineers and contractors, who have not seen any standards except for their own home countries or that of Qatar and they keep designing bad stuff. On top of that the owners just dont care to even look at the designs. Eg: how many buildings in dubai do you see with ramps and how many of those do you see here?</p>
<p>The other point is facilities management. You dont see Facilities management here at all, which is why you have the horrific situations described above!</p>
<p>My advice to all qatari landlords is simple &#8211; PLEASE LOOK AT YOUR NEIGHBORS IN DUBAI AND LEARN HOW THEY BUILD!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2010/01/2010-and-zig-zag-tower-still-isnt-finished/comment-page-1/#comment-1434</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly I&#039;m with Tallg on this one.  People like me who arrived in 2005 saw the terrible quality of their expensive rental accomodation and knew that standards would be the same for the properties available for purchase.

I&#039;ve tried to convince Qatari friends that where I&#039;m from, construction industry workers have not just finished school but also gone on to do further study in order to prepare them to be competent construction workers.  However to my Qatari friends it seems that construction is the sort of field that is suitable only for unskilled people from undeveloped nations.  So it&#039;s hardly surprising that when you hire monkies to build things, the work will be done poorly. 

Your post can really be boiled down to a few key points:
Why do builders cut costs and corners?  Because they are greedy and unethical.
Why doesn&#039;t the government implement and enforce consumer protection laws?  Afraid to ruffle feathers or because it simply doesn&#039;t care. Each is the logical result when a country lacks democracy; in other countries the relevant government representative would be held responsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly I&#8217;m with Tallg on this one.  People like me who arrived in 2005 saw the terrible quality of their expensive rental accomodation and knew that standards would be the same for the properties available for purchase.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried to convince Qatari friends that where I&#8217;m from, construction industry workers have not just finished school but also gone on to do further study in order to prepare them to be competent construction workers.  However to my Qatari friends it seems that construction is the sort of field that is suitable only for unskilled people from undeveloped nations.  So it&#8217;s hardly surprising that when you hire monkies to build things, the work will be done poorly. </p>
<p>Your post can really be boiled down to a few key points:<br />
Why do builders cut costs and corners?  Because they are greedy and unethical.<br />
Why doesn&#8217;t the government implement and enforce consumer protection laws?  Afraid to ruffle feathers or because it simply doesn&#8217;t care. Each is the logical result when a country lacks democracy; in other countries the relevant government representative would be held responsible.</p>
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		<title>By: Kei</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2010/01/2010-and-zig-zag-tower-still-isnt-finished/comment-page-1/#comment-1433</link>
		<dc:creator>Kei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes indeed I do. Just one left.

It&#039;s considered &#039;luxury&#039; in the true sense that we did the finishing with an external company, leather/suede sofa, solid wood tables, slanting curtains, HD LCD tvs in all the rooms, fully equiped stainless steel kitchen, bathrooms have glass splash guards installed, appliances are all have new anti-bacteria and hygiene technology, satellite boxes installed, built in cupboards, and the water and electricity deposit is paid so the tenant doesn&#039;t need to :)

It&#039;s the largest two bedroom available (two bed + maids room) in Tower A (the better tower), it&#039;s a corner with a view of Lusail, Ritz, Grand Hyatt, The Pearl and Westbay skyline (best there is). 

If you&#039;re interested drop me a line at kei  ~A-t~ iloveqatar.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes indeed I do. Just one left.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s considered &#8216;luxury&#8217; in the true sense that we did the finishing with an external company, leather/suede sofa, solid wood tables, slanting curtains, HD LCD tvs in all the rooms, fully equiped stainless steel kitchen, bathrooms have glass splash guards installed, appliances are all have new anti-bacteria and hygiene technology, satellite boxes installed, built in cupboards, and the water and electricity deposit is paid so the tenant doesn&#8217;t need to <img src='http://blog.iloveqatar.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the largest two bedroom available (two bed + maids room) in Tower A (the better tower), it&#8217;s a corner with a view of Lusail, Ritz, Grand Hyatt, The Pearl and Westbay skyline (best there is). </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested drop me a line at kei  ~A-t~ iloveqatar.net</p>
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		<dc:creator>....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do u have any of your apartments for rent. We actually liked zigzag when we viewed them and are looking to rent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do u have any of your apartments for rent. We actually liked zigzag when we viewed them and are looking to rent.</p>
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		<title>By: Bleu</title>
		<link>http://blog.iloveqatar.net/2010/01/2010-and-zig-zag-tower-still-isnt-finished/comment-page-1/#comment-1422</link>
		<dc:creator>Bleu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zig-Zag ... LOL

يا بو زقة</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zig-Zag &#8230; LOL</p>
<p>يا بو زقة</p>
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		<title>By: tallg</title>
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		<dc:creator>tallg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, of course, I see your point. But my point is, why is this a surprise? We&#039;ve seen it so many times before. When it comes to construction/housing they don&#039;t learn. 

Greedy developers are left to get on with it with pretty much no-one to answer to. Quality and safety standards are non-existent resulting in shoddy buildings with fundamental flaws and poor finishes built by people risking their lives every day due to lack of safety enforcement.

But Qatar is happy cos they have a pretty sky line making it look they are an up and coming ultra-modern city. Not many people outside of Qatar hear about how poor the buildings actually are, or about the people who build them.

As you say, we&#039;ve seen it before in Dubai.

But keep pushing for the land law courts, keep standing your ground, keep making people aware of the problems. It&#039;s good to know some Qataris want things to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, of course, I see your point. But my point is, why is this a surprise? We&#8217;ve seen it so many times before. When it comes to construction/housing they don&#8217;t learn. </p>
<p>Greedy developers are left to get on with it with pretty much no-one to answer to. Quality and safety standards are non-existent resulting in shoddy buildings with fundamental flaws and poor finishes built by people risking their lives every day due to lack of safety enforcement.</p>
<p>But Qatar is happy cos they have a pretty sky line making it look they are an up and coming ultra-modern city. Not many people outside of Qatar hear about how poor the buildings actually are, or about the people who build them.</p>
<p>As you say, we&#8217;ve seen it before in Dubai.</p>
<p>But keep pushing for the land law courts, keep standing your ground, keep making people aware of the problems. It&#8217;s good to know some Qataris want things to change.</p>
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